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RE: Harbison Transferring
(11-22-2019 04:13 PM)uiniu57 Wrote: (11-22-2019 03:16 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote: When are we going to start holding Coach Hammock accountable? Why are people so quick to give this guy a free pass?
He did not take over a rebuilding project , infact, STF said he was hired to take us to the next level. Harbs, like it or not, was one of our best players. I am 100% sure he is not transferring because the team is losing. Good character sets the culture. Hammock pushed players out that had good character and much more will go when season is done (no, not 20 but quite a few). Now, instead of going to the next level, we are stuck rebuilding a team for the next 2 years by a guy who I am not sure can even coach let alone be entrusted to build a roster.
Since you believe in over-inflating every word:
-- did you honestly think STF talking about taking "us to the next level" was literal gospel, or something any and every AD would say about a new hire?
-- are you at every practice, team meeting, etc.? How do you know what the culture is and under this culture, what constitutes good character?
-- statistically Harbs was one of the best players. How many runningbacks don't want to be the featured back? How many don't want virtually unlimited touches to prove their ability? So you tell us why under these circumstances he wants to play somewhere else other than he doesn't like losing?
-- what is your evidence Hammock "pushed players out that had good character"? Or are these simply people you know or are friends with?
-- If the recruiting hadn't declined under Carey, how come the cupboard wasn't so well stocked that this year's team could withstand the numerous injuries that have occurred?
-- Why are so many people quick to give Hammock a free pass? Because many of us have been around Huskie athletics longer than you've been alive and we witnessed and saw Hammock's appreciation and commitment to NIU as a player; watched his rise through various coaching assignments at the collegiate and pro level. This is a guy who literally put his heart on the line for NIU football at one point. Most recently, he said it's his dream job, same as so many others have indicated when given a chance to coach at their alma mater. Maybe he gets a free pass because I like the kool-aid when he talks about success academically and athletically, same as he achieved here as a player, in contrast to some of the current generation's entitled attitude.
-- Charlie Sadler had a great resume, but Joe Novak had to run off players, some of whom were starters and believed they were stars, and yes it took longer, but the program did reach new heights. As some other poster noted, maybe to get beyond the level of Carey's we-can-never-win-a bowl-game level, another re-tooling was needed.
-- Despite the quality numbers posted, NIU has had many outstanding backs from Kellar to Latin to Richardson to Roth to Dach to Hammock to Turner to Johnson to Talley to Wolfe, etc., and Harbs doesn't make the top 10.
-- And finally, I'm giving Hammock a pass because I don't know what makes you such an expert on recruiting and coaching that you can even be entrusted to type up a roster, let alone build one. So I'd rather be stuck supporting Hammock and the Huskies than taking advice from someone who doesn't know how much of a football is pumped or stuffed.
----------- did you honestly think STF talking about taking "us to the next level" was literal gospel, or something any and every AD would say about a new hire?
Yes or atleast keep it at the level it was at. This was NOT a rebuild!
-- are you at every practice, team meeting, etc.? How do you know what the culture is and under this culture, what constitutes good character?
I personally know and talked to some players that were let go. Some who were on the deans list and were guys that you would let your daughter date.
-- statistically Harbs was one of the best players. How many runningbacks don't want to be the featured back? How many don't want virtually unlimited touches to prove their ability? So you tell us why under these circumstances he wants to play somewhere else other than he doesn't like losing?
You would have to ask Harbs as to why. This is a hunch, from talking from other players that got axed (and the reasons they were let go), there is more to meet the eye.
-- what is your evidence Hammock "pushed players out that had good character"?
[b]Answered above, but do not take my word for it. Hams tried to bring Collins RB (accused of assault) or held on to Deny Walker (arrested on felony and given benefit of doubt when Hammock arrived)as we were pushing out good players
-- If the recruiting hadn't declined under Carey, how come the cupboard wasn't so well stocked that this year's team could withstand the numerous injuries that have occurred? Because coaching sucked!
-- Why are so many people quick to give Hammock a free pass? Because many of us have been around Huskie athletics longer than you've been alive and we witnessed and saw Hammock's appreciation and commitment to NIU as a player; watched his rise through various coaching assignments at the collegiate and pro level. This is a guy who literally put his heart on the line for NIU football at one point. Most recently, he said it's his dream job, same as so many others have indicated when given a chance to coach at their alma mater. Maybe he gets a free pass because I like the kool-aid when he talks about success academically and athletically, same as he achieved here as a player, in contrast to some of the current generation's entitled attitude.
Nice story. So whoever is the greatest most diehard NIU fan should become the coach of NIU? Since when and why would being a fan of a team be a consideration on if you are qualified to coach. Give me the most qualified and I couldnt care less if the coach could find NIU on the map
-- Charlie Sadler had a great resume, but Joe Novak had to run off players, some of whom were starters and believed they were stars, and yes it took longer, but the program did reach new heights. As some other poster noted, maybe to get beyond the level of Carey's we-can-never-win-a bowl-game level, another re-tooling was needed. That was a rebuild not a championship team.
-- Despite the quality numbers posted, NIU has had many outstanding backs from Kellar to Latin to Richardson to Roth to Dach to Hammock to Turner to Johnson to Talley to Wolfe, etc., and Harbs doesn't make the top 10.
Does he make #11 or #15 , if so , that is not a talent you let go!
-- And finally, I'm giving Hammock a pass because I don't know what makes you such an expert on recruiting and coaching that you can even be entrusted to type up a roster, let alone build one. So I'd rather be stuck supporting Hammock and the Huskies than taking advice from someone who doesn't know how much of a football is pumped or stuffed.
He took a MAC championship team from 1st to almost last (and do not give me bs about injuries, happens every year, to everybody). And now will be given a pass for 2 years with now accountability?!?!. I hope you never run a company or it will be bankrupt before your years of leniency(for those in charge) ever come to fruition.
Excuse me....Do you know me? What I do for a living? and how I am connected to the team? Continue to assume (only a fool does that). No NIU fan, should be happy with what has transpired and EVERYBODY involved should be held accountable. Staring with the guy running the ship..
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